topaz
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Post by topaz on May 9, 2018 23:31:22 GMT
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Post by nicki on May 10, 2018 8:17:14 GMT
They are coming for the Carters from all angles. I'm guessing their protector must have gotten caught up in the initial Metoo sweep.
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Post by beydunce on May 10, 2018 11:07:07 GMT
Hard proof that she's a thief. When I read that lemonade was streamed 100 million times, I was like pffffffft I knew that's a lie. Here's the proof! Lovely.
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Post by Guest on May 10, 2018 12:05:35 GMT
Finally I been knew she was a fraud. She is an ass popping clown masquerading as a musical artist
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topaz
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Post by topaz on May 10, 2018 17:01:05 GMT
The Carter's streaming scandal has helped to connect a lot of dots in the Carter's ongoing legal troubles. Y'all remember Kanye's lawsuits against Tidal? Kanye states in the lawsuits that Tidal didn't pay him the bonuses that were promised to him for bringing new subscribers to Tidal. Kanye is also suing to be compensated for music videos that he made exclusively for Tidal and he parted ways with the streaming service. Therefore, it sounds like Jay inflated Kanye's streaming numbers and instead of giving the royalties to Kanye, he kept the money for himself & Beyonce!!!! I'm waiting to read Kanye's Tweets about this scandal because he seems innocent in all of this due to his lawsuits against Tidal www.google.com/amp/variety.com/2017/music/news/kanye-west-jay-z-tidal-money-owed-1202487355/amp/The streaming scandal also sheds light on why Rihanna and Kanye's albums were always leaked on Tidal. Leaking Rihanna's albums helped Beyonce to always have better first day album release numbers than Rihanna and it gave her leverage over Rihanna with music executives and awards shows. I was so mad & confused as to why lately Rihanna was on a praise brigade for Beyonce this year after years of suffering from Bey's bullying via fans and Bey's team. Rih praised Bey like crazy at Coachella and after Bey attended Rih's Diamond Ball, Rih released a photo of Bey wearing a crown that Rihanna drew on Bey's head. Now I understand why Rihanna vomited the praise because she knew Bey & Jay were about to finally be exposed for doing her dirty and cheating. Once they are properly exposed, Rihanna can finally be seen in the music industry as the real music streaming queen and black female singers can enter mainstream music again without being intimidated by Bey. This streaming scandal also reveals why Rihanna hasn't rushed to put out an album. Bey & Jay are waiting to steal even more money from Rihanna once she releases an album. The lyrics to B**** Better Have My Money have a more personal meaning than before (read this link about Rih praising Bey but beware the article is Bey propaganda. I can't wait for the music industry to next expose the money and tactics Bey use to get people to write such braggadocios/nauseating headlines about her. uproxx.com/hiphop/rihanna-beyonce-queen-instagram-story-diamond-ball/)
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Post by nicki on May 11, 2018 17:33:10 GMT
I can't stand Kanye but it would be so funny if Jay winds up owing Kanye money over the fake figures created by his company. I don't add much credence to what celebrities say or post on social media. No one can ever make me believe there is authentic respect or love between Bey and Rhi. She was probably just looking to gain customers by claiming Bey.
Something tells me Rihanna is geeking about this as much as we are. She needs to be assembling a legal team though. I'm sure Jay has been stealing from her as well.
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Post by Guest on May 16, 2018 0:02:33 GMT
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Post by Guest on May 16, 2018 0:15:38 GMT
The Norwegians are out for blood, they want the police involved for the lies Tidal put out there about the streaming and the Swedes are pissed off too. This looks like the beginning of the end for them.
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Post by beydunce on May 16, 2018 0:28:28 GMT
Yeah I doubt they'd be impressed by the Carter's tabloid narratives over there in Sweden!
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Post by nicki on May 16, 2018 12:04:38 GMT
They are out here working PR clean up like it's no one's business. Tina threw Solange under the bus with her heroic parenting stories of preemptive therapy which we know aren't true. Parents weren't sending their children to therapy in the 80's like that. Tina is also doing her thing on social media with her Scientologist husband. Jay-Z's mother just won some GLAAD award for being gay which is strange because the last I remember she and her girlfriend were stealing money from Jay's charitable organization.
(side note)~It's amazing to me how comfortable Beyonce and JayZ's mothers are with covering lies for their conniving adult children. (/side note)
Then there was Chance the rappers commencement speech where he oddly proclaimed Beyonce's Coachella performance was better than anything MJ has done. Some NY radio stations loyal to the Carters made sure to keep that one going for a minute.
They have also dispatched the social media team to create the scenario that Trump is behind this even though the investigation began during Obama's administration. This is entertaining.
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Post by beydunce on May 16, 2018 16:42:43 GMT
Yeah the lesbian mom again. And look at what Tina says: "The grandmother-of-four also added that she spent a lot of time making sure they never felt insecure when there was another girl around, instead teaching them that they were “the most beautiful things going.” Do I even have to talk about narcissism? Tina is super narcissistic and she's taught her daughters specially beyonce to be the same way. And they threw solange under the bus portraying her as jealous and annoying, when she's worked so hard to distance herself from beyonce lol. www.independent.co.uk/life-style/beyonce-solange-therapy-children-tina-knowles-sibling-jealousy-fame-a8352221.html
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Post by beydunce on May 16, 2018 16:46:46 GMT
"It said they had disputed listening to the two albums' songs as frequently as the records indicated and in some cases had evidence they would not having been using the app at the registered times." People weren't even online listening to her album at all!! www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44066139
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Post by beydunce on May 16, 2018 16:50:20 GMT
"Following chatter to the effect that the official number of plays for those albums in the weeks after release seemed very high, given the size of Tidal’s userbase, DN got its hands on some internal data from the streaming company. It says that when it approached certain Tidal subscribers – who this database said had streamed the Kanye or Beyonce albums an awful lot – at least some of those subscribers denied having listened to these records anything like the number of times the official figures said. The journalists than had some academics scrutinise the data. Said academics concluded it had been tampered with." "Danish collecting society Koda is also known to be investigating last week’s reports, starting with an audit of the data it received from Tidal. It’s thought that other European societies or rights owners could follow suit." www.completemusicupdate.com/article/norwegian-collecting-society-reports-tidal-to-police-over-kanye-and-beyonce-stat-allegations/
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Post by Guest on May 16, 2018 22:51:54 GMT
They are out here working PR clean up like it's no one's business. Tina threw Solange under the bus with her heroic parenting stories of preemptive therapy which we know aren't true. Parents weren't sending their children to therapy in the 80's like that. Tina is also doing her thing on social media with her Scientologist husband. Jay-Z's mother just won some GLAAD award for being gay which is strange because the last I remember she and her girlfriend were stealing money from Jay's charitable organization. (side note)~It's amazing to me how comfortable Beyonce and JayZ's mothers are with covering lies for their conniving adult children. (/side note) Then there was Chance the rappers commencement speech where he oddly proclaimed Beyonce's Coachella performance was better than anything MJ has done. Some NY radio stations loyal to the Carters made sure to keep that one going for a minute. They have also dispatched the social media team to create the scenario that Trump is behind this even though the investigation began during Obama's administration. This is entertaining. now they are resurrecting Prince from the grave to prop them up and cover them is his goodwill, they are parasitic scum
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Post by Guest on May 16, 2018 23:55:43 GMT
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Post by beydunce on May 17, 2018 0:32:52 GMT
I recommend reading this in full, it's very good.. Listen here, it says they faked 320 mil fake streams. 250 of that for kanye. That leaves 70mill. Beyonce album reported to be streamed 100 mill times. Does that mean that album was streamed 30 million times? That's far far far lower than all the hype and also closer to the reality when you think of how many people around you seem to have listened to it (Maybe one person lol). That's kind of a bomb and a flop when you consider that's all the streams of all the songs put together. Also, they didn't even create bots to stream the albums. They used their users' accounts to have their accounts stream those two albums. More than 90% of the users' profiles were manipulated that way!! Wow. That is not just "shady" it's straight up fraud. How shameless is our shy beyonce?! Making money off album by faking streams, flaunting both. Buying awards, flaunting being an award winner. Damn that woman is living a lie. Her enemy rihanna's least successful singles get more streams than that. www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2018/05/10/610193354/tidal-accused-of-faking-hundreds-of-millions-of-plays-for-kanye-west-and-beyonc" The paper found evidence of certain users having streamed the two albums a surprising amount — 15 plays of Lemonade, in full, in one one day, by one person. The paper interviewed that person, a 34-year-old Washington, D.C., law student, to ask if she could verify that the plays were hers. "I love Beyoncé — but 11 hours? No," she told Dagens Næringsliv." "An announcement by Tidal last year claimed The Life of Pablo was streamed 250 million times in the first 10 days it was available. It also claimed last year to have 3 million subscribers, meaning each user played the record 83 times." "In total, it accuses Tidal of fabricating 320 million "false" streams. Because of the way streaming revenues are distributed, the effect of drastically inflating two albums' listen counts is to apportion more revenue toward those albums and away from others" "This means smaller artists are, in a way, pitted against the most successful artists in the world for pieces of a finite pie — and the large artists, for the most part, receive a disproportionate cut of the revenue."I.e. The rich manipulate, cheat and steal, so the rich gets richer and the small artists remain small. In this case , all the while they act like they're so revolutionary and also flaunt the stolen money . This is an instance that displays and proves everything about b&j. I hope they go down but I'm afraid sociopaths like them are the ones that get away with everything in this world. " All of this means that if the data were manipulated — whether Tidal itself or the intermediary who gave it to them — wanted Beyoncé and Kanye to actually receive, or appear to receive, an outsized portion of the service's revenues.Now let's talk about this quote. Since the crack dealer part is true, what does that mean about the other part? Hmmm. "referred to our employee as an "Israeli Intelligence officer" and our owner as a "crack dealer."
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Post by Guest on May 17, 2018 1:46:13 GMT
Beyoncé and her crap music is not nearly as popular as they lie and say it is, she is such a fraud
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Post by boysluvbey on May 17, 2018 10:55:17 GMT
I recommend reading this in full, it's very good.. Listen here, it says they faked 320 mil fake streams. 250 of that for kanye. That leaves 70mill. Beyonce album reported to be streamed 100 mill times. Does that mean that album was streamed 30 million times? That's far far far lower than all the hype and also closer to the reality when you think of how many people around you seem to have listened to it (Maybe one person lol). That's kind of a bomb and a flop when you consider that's all the streams of all the songs put together. Also, they didn't even create bots to stream the albums. They used their users' accounts to have their accounts stream those two albums. More than 90% of the users' profiles were manipulated that way!! Wow. That is not just "shady" it's straight up fraud. How shameless is our shy beyonce?! Making money off album by faking streams, flaunting both. Buying awards, flaunting being an award winner. Damn that woman is living a lie. Her enemy rihanna's least successful singles get more streams than that. www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2018/05/10/610193354/tidal-accused-of-faking-hundreds-of-millions-of-plays-for-kanye-west-and-beyonc" The paper found evidence of certain users having streamed the two albums a surprising amount — 15 plays of Lemonade, in full, in one one day, by one person. The paper interviewed that person, a 34-year-old Washington, D.C., law student, to ask if she could verify that the plays were hers. "I love Beyoncé — but 11 hours? No," she told Dagens Næringsliv." "An announcement by Tidal last year claimed The Life of Pablo was streamed 250 million times in the first 10 days it was available. It also claimed last year to have 3 million subscribers, meaning each user played the record 83 times." "In total, it accuses Tidal of fabricating 320 million "false" streams. Because of the way streaming revenues are distributed, the effect of drastically inflating two albums' listen counts is to apportion more revenue toward those albums and away from others" "This means smaller artists are, in a way, pitted against the most successful artists in the world for pieces of a finite pie — and the large artists, for the most part, receive a disproportionate cut of the revenue."I.e. The rich manipulate, cheat and steal, so the rich gets richer and the small artists remain small. In this case , all the while they act like they're so revolutionary and also flaunt the stolen money . This is an instance that displays and proves everything about b&j. I hope they go down but I'm afraid sociopaths like them are the ones that get away with everything in this world. " All of this means that if the data were manipulated — whether Tidal itself or the intermediary who gave it to them — wanted Beyoncé and Kanye to actually receive, or appear to receive, an outsized portion of the service's revenues.Now let's talk about this quote. Since the crack dealer part is true, what does that mean about the other part? Hmmm. "referred to our employee as an "Israeli Intelligence officer" and our owner as a "crack dealer."The intelligence officer part is equivalent to America’s CIA, they’re called mossad and they’re bad ass and very smart... I doubt they want their name tangled with these circus clown heathens, I know if I was a leader of a 3 letter organization I would dead this story...so this story is going to go away unfortunately.... I guess they’re going to get away with it.
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Post by beydunce on May 17, 2018 13:11:31 GMT
Hmm then maybe they know that and that's why they highlighted it. It seems like they'll get away with this in the media. But this whole thing provided valuable hard proof of everything we know about them.
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Post by boysluvbey on May 17, 2018 17:35:27 GMT
Hmm then maybe they know that and that's why they highlighted it. It seems like they'll get away with this in the media. But this whole thing provided valuable hard proof of everything we know about them. This isn’t linked to mossad! Have u heard tidal isn’t paying their artists who stream on their platform! It’s been since October 2017. Artist are gonna start removing their music from that sinking ship! Wowwww how tragic is that ?! Omg this May need a new thread! This article is 7 hrs old as of 5/17/18 1:34 est www.cultofmac.com/548635/jay-zs-tidal-service-is-reportedly-months-late-with-royalty-payments/
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Post by beydunce on May 17, 2018 17:44:08 GMT
Hey look they're not paying labels either!!! www.theverge.com/2018/5/16/17361646/tidal-late-royalty-paymentsWow, beyonce and jay z took aaaalllll the money for themselves!!! Kanye's money,other artists money, labels money... no wonder those networthes jump 200 million dollars at a time, they're taking everybody's share and flaunting that they're billionaires!!!
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Post by beydunce on May 18, 2018 1:55:42 GMT
Man these articles are good. "Dagens launched a massive, two-year investigation in conjunction with the Norwegian University of Science and Technology’s Center for Cyber and Information Security (CCIS). In the end, the publication found that TIDAL had massively inflated Beyoncé and Kanye West’s numbers, leading to massive payouts for both artists. This, of course, at the expense of real, hard-working artists on the platform." Notice that dig? Real artists? Heh! www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/05/15/tidal-tono-police-complaint/"Now, Dagens Næringsliv claims it has proof that the figures were manipulated. It says it has obtained a hard drive with Tidal’s raw streaming data, which has been analysed by the Norwegian University of Science and Technology. The report, produced by the university, claims that Tidal used genuine accounts to play more than 150m duplicates of The Life Of Pablo tracks at exactly the same times, 2am and 5am, without users’ permission. It also claims that tracks from Lemonade were played repeatedly at exact intervals of six minutes – down to the millisecond." "Tidal, partly owned by Jay-Z, the husband of Beyoncé and a long-term Kanye West collaborator, will have paid millions of unearned dollars to the record labels of those acts if the allegations are true. That money should have been divided more fairly between other artists on the platform." Well we know the labels weren't paid and kanye wasn't paid, so that means beyonce stole all the money for herself. Hey, the authorities should check blue ivy's bank accounts lol. www.theguardian.com/music/2018/may/11/tidal-streaming-accusations-figures-kanye-west
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Post by beydunce on May 18, 2018 2:09:11 GMT
Hey read in these comments that the story about bey's fake numbers was on this website and now it's disappeared. So her people are trying to bury this story. The site's readers are asking why the site won't report it, others say they did but it's gone! www.theverge.com/2018/5/16/17361646/tidal-late-royalty-paymentsCleaners out there
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Post by Guest on May 21, 2018 2:50:39 GMT
I'm watching the Billboard Music Awards and it got me to thinking how many awards will be taken away from B because of the streaming lie? It was nice to see her lose to Sza for top R&B female and she was nominated somehow for top Latin song for Mi Gente. Seriously? Top LATIN song? Anything for an award and she lost that category too. If she worked in an office she would be the office s*** lying cheating and f****** her way to the top. They threw J a bone (shut out at Grammys) for top Rap Tour. And it was great to see Cardi B win over Nicki Minaj for top rap female. The next generation is definitely taking over and like someone else said if they weren't putting ish out there to be noticed they would be forgotten rather quickly. No lasting impression like say, the Jacksons. It was nice to see Janet perform and accept her award the whole place gave her a standing ovation and nobody sat down the entire time she spoke and the whole crowd kept chanting her name Janet Janet Janet. TAKE THAT BEYONCE! I want to see where she is at 50.
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Post by Guest on May 21, 2018 18:47:16 GMT
Normani slayed like her much better than bleach head beyonce
And f cardi btw, she is another weapon of mass destruction, no education, lewd, crass, ignant ewwwww our youth do not need her loose in the atmosphere
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Post by Hithere on May 21, 2018 20:21:37 GMT
Normani slayed like her much better than bleach head beyonce And f cardi btw, she is another weapon of mass destruction, no education, lewd, crass, ignant ewwwww our youth do not need her loose in the atmosphere Yeah, I don't like Cardi's music. I still listen to 90s singers, and I buy their albums when they release.
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Post by nicki on May 21, 2018 20:24:45 GMT
That Normani performance reminded me too much of the trend Beyonce has played out. She needs to change up her style and work on her vocals. I don't understand Cardi appeal at all. I guess her handlers figured the public ate up lil Kim and Nicki Minaj, why not try it again with another trash bag. Which takes me back to my original point with Normani. Does the industry really need another scantily clad Black woman lip syncing and doing stripper moves? I don't know about you guys but I have moved on to SZA and H.E.R.
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Post by Guest on May 21, 2018 21:03:19 GMT
I dont like sza's song about sharing men
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Post by Guest on May 21, 2018 22:08:17 GMT
Normani didn’t remind me of beyonce
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Post by Guest on May 24, 2018 1:06:15 GMT
I guess wi5 all these eyes on tidal it is going to be harder to inflate their streams on their joint album they are rumored to be dropping,or on the next beyonce album.
I been knew they were inflating her numbers, and many in the industry know and have known. I think pepsi found out first, I remember she was supposed to get cans and all this other stuff and Pepsi ran a promotion which required her fans to register on some website (I knew then that was their way of getting a true sense of her fan base as this was right after Matty was let go for cooking the books, although they made it out to be stealing only, he was manipulating numbers as well for those consecutive no 1 albums) anyway after that promotion the cans never materialized and their sponsorship of her was very limited, because they knew she wasn’t as large as marketed
Just recently even in their limited edition collection they have MJ, Britney and can’t think of the third but no BeyCooktheBooks
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