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Post by Ivory on Dec 19, 2013 14:11:41 GMT
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Post by eljjai on Dec 19, 2013 14:24:22 GMT
It's a shame he buckled. I just read his review he has nothing to apologise for. Seriously, people need to grow a back bone. I swear if I iwas famous and I said something some people didn't like, Bey Stans, Gays etc etc and they came for me, I would tell them to suck it. His was a hilariously biting review that stated the obvious, which needs to be stated when dealing with Beyonce. Ugh, people need to tell people to go jump off a bridge. See what they'll do. Let people try and boycott and make a big noise etc etc.Sanity will eventually prevail.
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Post by shanaelmsford on Dec 19, 2013 18:10:33 GMT
It doesn't seem to me like he really changed his mind. He explained where he was coming from in terms of frustration and apologized for his wording but not the review itself - he's not sorry for not liking the album and Imo he has no cause to be. I believe that he could have done a better job of critiquing the songs (composition and structure, lyrical coherence) but I sort of got the feeling that her efforts were so sloppy that they didn't merit the effort. Still, as a professional reviewer it's his job to make that effort whether he dislikes an artist or not. I think he should have done a better job with that.
I also think that he should have done a better job of separating they hype of some listeners from Bey's claims and explanation of her album. Like I said in the Bottom Bitch Feminism thread: she's not the one saying this is a feminist album (not yet anyway, if enough people say it she might front like it was her intention all along), it's fans and stans. I think he only should have touched on that topic if SHE mentioned it. Would it have completely quelled the hordes of hood-feminists pestering him? No, but it probably would have cut down on the hoopla. Some of them would have still worked themselves into a tizzy because they can't stand the fact that everyone doesn't love Beyonce like they do, which is what I think the backlash is really about. This reviewer being a white man who doesn't identify as a feminist makes him an easy target for their ire because they can accuse him of being 'oppressive' or judging her (and them, by extension) based on respectability politics as a means of masking their butthurt.
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Post by Jordan Jada on Dec 19, 2013 21:14:34 GMT
The stans can't stomach that not everyone is in love with Beyonce, the ugly truth is the majority can't stand her or just don't give a fuck.
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Post by angelia on Dec 19, 2013 23:10:24 GMT
He did the best review of the album I have read so far. Because it’s a pile of crap that I wouldn't expect any half decent reviewer to make sense of, without sounding ridiculous. So I'm sorry people felt a way about it.
The feminism thing, I think is coming directly from Beyonce. It’s just something I have noticed. Nothing is ever exactly said by her - just implied by different sources. But with the reach she has proven to have over the year, if feminism is what is being attached to this album, then that was the desired effect.
The truth is she really is simple. It’s like me asking someone to guess my favourite colour while pointing excitedly at the clear blue sky. I think that was the intention of having Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie on the track Flawless. Just glad the reviewer, Tom Hawking, saw through that. I wholeheartedly agree with him when he says,
"Feminism is actually caring about people who are oppressed — women, minorities, the poor. It is not spending 99% of your time talking about how great you are and how much hotter you are than other women and how rich you are..."
The rest of what he said I found to be in context, considering the content in review.
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