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Post by angelia on Dec 21, 2013 13:28:03 GMT
Was it really the surprise album that had no promotion as being claimed? As per usual, it is not being directly said, but somehow, it’s out there as if it were fact.
But why has it been so important for the media to assert this idea? They really want us to know Columbia did not promote this album; Beyonce did not promote this album - but that the surprise release of Beyonce’s new album changed the game and eradicated the need for promotion. Forgetting: yearlong build up, buzz/promo singles, producers talking about their work on the album, how we knew the concept, and towards the end, roughly when to expect it. And all reported on by the media.
Her antics at the presidential inauguration pushed her from celebrity gossip pages to mainstream news. And sports fans were forced to endure her Super Bowel performance. Of course, drama surrounded both events. A bit difficult to believe one person generated this on their own. Because one person was worth ignoring readership requests to not report on the everyday occurrences of a musician that did not have new material to promote - unless that was not the case. What if the real game changer regarding this album is that the events of this entire year have been the promotion? I mean, they sat down and actually planed it. Not that I’m knocking it.After the extensive promotion of her previous album lead to failure, there must have been concerns about Beyonce’s relate ability with the public. This way, she was able to build up anticipation for her album while also controlling her public image via Instagram and Tumblr, without having to speak directly to the media. That was left to close sources .
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Post by Jordan Jada on Dec 21, 2013 14:50:58 GMT
To me she promoted this album all year long. With much more efforts than anybody else. And remember that bland item when someone said she would release her LP AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE INDUSTRY AROUND CHRISTMAS, so she could avoid competition.
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Post by MPM on Dec 21, 2013 16:32:36 GMT
Am I the only one that feels like she's trying to snatch up 8 Grammies in one night like Michael Jackson did for his Thriller album? I just feel like that's what she's trying to accomplish with this album! Actually I feel like she's trying to get on MJ'S level fame wise, money wise, personality wise, and accomplishments wise. She needs to be her own Artist and stop trying to duplicate MJ. At the end of the day it doesn't matter how many awards she wins, how famous she is, how much she accomplishes, etc she would never be MJ! He was more than a performer and singer. He was a genius! He outdid those before his time, during his time and way after his time!
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Post by angelia on Dec 21, 2013 23:19:33 GMT
I don’t know how her wining as many Grammys for this album as thriller did could be justified. Even with arguments I've heard about her being for this generation what Michael was for his. That when we look back what we complain about now will be classics......just like they complained abut blues, rock, and so on...
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Post by eljjai on Dec 22, 2013 5:57:18 GMT
I don’t know how her wining as many Grammys for this album as thriller did could be justified. Even with arguments I've heard about her being for this generation what Michael was for his. That when we look back what we complain about now will be classics......just like they complained abut blues, rock, and so on... Giiirl, the gloves literally came off (I've go henna in my hair I'm about to wash out.) Beyonce could never be what Michael was for this generation. Michael appealed to everybody. you can see it in his sales numbers. He did this without modern networking tools. People would faint at his concerts. He was on a whole other level. If Beyonce was ever going to be the Michael of this generation she would have shown it by now. Instead she has shown us that she is the Milli Vanilli of the generation, just much more successful than the OG.
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Post by angelia on Dec 22, 2013 22:47:05 GMT
I don’t know how her wining as many Grammys for this album as thriller did could be justified. Even with arguments I've heard about her being for this generation what Michael was for his. That when we look back what we complain about now will be classics......just like they complained abut blues, rock, and so on... Giiirl, the gloves literally came off (I've go henna in my hair I'm about to wash out.) Beyonce could never be what Michael was for this generation. Michael appealed to everybody. you can see it in his sales numbers. He did this without modern networking tools. People would faint at his concerts. He was on a whole other level. If Beyonce was ever going to be the Michael of this generation she would have shown it by now. Instead she has shown us that she is the Milli Vanilli of the generation, just much more successful than the OG. I see all that, but I also know he would not have been appreciated now.
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Post by Jay on Dec 22, 2013 23:52:12 GMT
Are you serious? People will still want to work with MJ and then some.. I doubt she will be bigger then MJ and never will be.
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Post by Jay on Dec 22, 2013 23:53:17 GMT
Are you serious? People will still want to work with MJ and then some.. I doubt she will be bigger then MJ and never will be. . and he will still and is still appreciated
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Post by angelia on Dec 23, 2013 0:34:40 GMT
Are you serious? People will still want to work with MJ and then some.. I doubt she will be bigger then MJ and never will be. . and he will still and is still appreciated I’m very serious, and not talking about individuals, but more society. Obviously those that love/loved Michael and have experienced what his music was about will always have a special place for him. He was fortunate enough to come up in a time where his talent was given the opportunity and time to flourish and not to mention the budget. The kind of things that don’t happen now! And I’m now starting to understand that it’s not necessary that labels don’t want to take the risks, but that the public have become comfortable with accessing everything they want at next to nothing, which contributes to diminishing budgets, which then affects the quality of music. But it’s not just that, there’s also not much patience for getting to know an artists. It’s kind of whatever sparkles brightest and grabs you at that moment. That’s why, even though I don’t like the idea, I think there is an element of getting what you seek when it comes to Beyonce. She represents what a lot of young people are trying to do right now: get famous and for no reason. If Michael had released an album, yes, there would have been interest because of who he was, but I think it would have been like it was with Whitney. People dragging her for every little thing, like how her voice doesn't sound the same, she’s dried up, and so on. They do that with Mariah. The difference is Whitney died so now people remember she was a legend. I think there’s a bit of that with Michael as well. Before you mock that, think about some of the greats that are still alive right now and do not get the thought or recognition deserved.
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Post by eljjai on Dec 23, 2013 9:10:54 GMT
^^^ Hmmm, I get what you're saying Angelia. It's instant gratification culture. Budgets for actual music are being cut in favor of larger gimmick budgets. Don't you think if Beyonce used her famewhorin budget for acutally making good music, her brand would improve?
However, I'm not the hugest Michale fan but I know that tour he was working on would have sold out all over the world for real. He was still the greatest to many people. and he had fans of all ages and walks of life. It would have been out of this world.
I do think the greats are still appreciated. I mean, they aren't plastered on magazines but when someone says Aretha Franklin, everybody knows what they mean. She is not forgotten as the inaugaration proved a couple years back. They may have retired from the lime light but they are very much respected and remembered. I think Michael, as large as his fan base was, would have gotten the same treatment, all scandals aside.
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Post by angelia on Dec 23, 2013 14:35:04 GMT
I don’t want to skim through this again and miss some valid points like the one made in your earlier comment about Michael doing it without modern networking - because that was extraordinary. We have Beyonce here breaking her neck and they still barely know her in three countries. I’m kidding...but I’ll come back to this.
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