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Post by eljjai on Mar 12, 2014 9:12:36 GMT
Bloody Hell, my whole post just disappeared. Okay starting again. A thread on lipstick alley was talking about the industry tradition of using people to sweeten deals. Celebrities both male and female are passed around as bonuses for goods recieved or as discounts for goods desired. Be it studio time, guest appearances etc etc. This same font also claimed that MAtthew had been using the DC girls in that way for the longest time. The same font also claimed that Jay and Bey are notorious for it. This is what I'd like to discuss. Does Jay use Beyonce to compliment deals? Jay Z has 0 appeal outside of his very limited fan base. He has had some peculiar pairings in the past, Linkin Park for example. His most recent pairing with Justin Timberlake was odd to say the least. Justin doesn't need the fans. Linkin Park certainly didn't need the fans. His "friendship" with Chirs Martin was wierder than wierd and fooled nobody at all. His deal with Samsung was also very odd, Samsung didn't need the customers (their phone was going to sell regardless). His "skills" being used on what was supposed to be a great movie, Gatsby. With their budget and with a project as big a that, common sense would say that they would choose someone with a history of excellence when it came to music for movies. Jay Z had absolutely no experience in that field and much was needed. Jay Z is the one who stood to benefit the most from all these pairings. The way he has managed to slither into all sorts of corners defies logic. something else must be going on. And I think this the tea spiller on LSA might have exposed what it was. Beyonce, like it or not, is a big name. In an industry full of sociopaths, being able to say "I f****d beyonce" has a lot of value. It is seldom about genuine desire in such situations. One would sleep with a gorgeous woman who was a nobody and get no thrill from it because of her low status, but sleeping with Trannybey would be great just for the bragging rights. Maybe Jay Z is perfectly aware of the "hot commodity" he has in his posession. And if Matty did it, why shouldn't he. It woul certainly explain a lot. Notice that Mr Carter only started getting these "opportunities" when he landed Beyonce. Was Beyonce's marketability alone, strong enough to turn into money for Jay Z on his own? Jay Z is only desirable if he brings Beyonce. Whether he brings her out front (like the presidential elections) or whether he brings her through the back for some freaky fun times, doesn't matter, so long as he brings her. If you think about it. Beyonce was not the one thirsty to be seen as being politically aware. It's Jay Z that feels the need to be seen as a concious intellectual person. Beyonce's just happy to shuck and jive like she did for Bush. Jay Z needed the world to think he was the type of person that could discuss politics and fine art with the best of them. So maybe he let the prez take a ride so that he could be allowed to give off the impression that he and the prez were on the same level intellectually. I'm just saying... it would explain a lot. link
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Post by eljjai on Mar 12, 2014 9:15:56 GMT
I always wondered about these particular lyrics in Beyonce's song
Upgrade U:
When you're in them big meetings for the mills Thats a good look It take me just to compliment the deal Thats a good look
I used to put it down to Beyonce not knowing what she was actually saying because she's stupid and also because other people write for her but now...
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Post by Elle McRealson on Mar 13, 2014 20:51:49 GMT
I completely feel your pain about having your post disappear, that just happened to me . I believe this happens with male and female artist, of legal age of consent and with children....God know who Jay had to sleep with behind the scenes. Its beyond sad/distrubing that Matthew would pimp out DC. I read some old tea on DR when I first found it about Beyonce spending "quality time" with a record exec to basically secure DC's deal. Also about Jay, Beyonce and R Kelly having 3somes around the time that Jay and R Kelly were working out the deal for their ill-fated best of both worlds tour. Lets face it Jay wouldn't have been walking the Oscars red carpet in 2005, if he wasn't Beyonce's +1.Now he's trying to capitalize off Daft Punk's success. He just released a song with Daft Punk called "computerized" what ever happened to death to auto tune??? Remember when Dallas Austin was talking about what some singers do for tracks:
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Post by Elle McRealson on Mar 14, 2014 1:12:54 GMT
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Post by eljjai on Mar 14, 2014 7:16:48 GMT
I completely feel your pain about having your post disappear, that just happened to me . I believe this happens with male and female artist, of legal age of consent and with children....God know who Jay had to sleep with behind the scenes. Its beyond sad/distrubing that Matthew would pimp out DC. I read some old tea on DR when I first found it about Beyonce spending "quality time" with a record exec to basically secure DC's deal. Also about Jay, Beyonce and R Kelly having 3somes around the time that Jay and R Kelly were working out the deal for their ill-fated best of both worlds tour. Lets face it Jay wouldn't have been walking the Oscars red carpet in 2005, if he wasn't Beyonce's +1.Now he's trying to capitalize off Daft Punk's success. He just released a song with Daft Punk called "computerized" what ever happened to death to auto tune??? Remember when Dallas Austin was talking about what some singers do for tracks: That last image is so powerful. We are being hypnotised with all this crap on Tv and not seeing what's actually happening to us. If Joss Stone was F-ing for tracks I wonder why her career fizzled out like it did. Maybe she couldn't take it anymore. It breaks my heat when I think of precious little children like Quevenzhane (sp?) Wallis and Abigail Breslin. Those Fanning sisters look like they've seen it all. Not to mention the ones who are born into it. They don't stand a chance, Blue, Nori and with parents so thirsty I shudder to think what they will go through in life. I read somewhere that Jay was some soulless hungry type, down for whatever to get him wherever. He's probably done it all.
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Post by eljjai on Mar 14, 2014 7:49:39 GMT
Interesting video, he goes off topic a bit (I'll admit I don't care bout Paula deen and Rachel ) I would have liked to know more about the rappers that turn gay for fame. Bow wow's been in this since he was a little kid. I don't even want to imagine what he's seen. Chris Brown was such a sweet kid when he came out. But you could see him changing into something else. HYou could see it in his eyes. I remember, before I was awake to any of this nonsense, seeing him change into what he has become now. By the time he did that song with Tpain he was no longer the boy he started out as.
The evil people love people like Chris, broken home, history of abuse, needy. Then they build them up onlyto rip them to shreds later. Chris was messed up long before he beat Rihanna.
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Post by Elle McRealson on Mar 14, 2014 19:46:19 GMT
I completely feel your pain about having your post disappear, that just happened to me . I believe this happens with male and female artist, of legal age of consent and with children....God know who Jay had to sleep with behind the scenes. Its beyond sad/distrubing that Matthew would pimp out DC. I read some old tea on DR when I first found it about Beyonce spending "quality time" with a record exec to basically secure DC's deal. Also about Jay, Beyonce and R Kelly having 3somes around the time that Jay and R Kelly were working out the deal for their ill-fated best of both worlds tour. Lets face it Jay wouldn't have been walking the Oscars red carpet in 2005, if he wasn't Beyonce's +1.Now he's trying to capitalize off Daft Punk's success. He just released a song with Daft Punk called "computerized" what ever happened to death to auto tune??? Remember when Dallas Austin was talking about what some singers do for tracks: That last image is so powerful. We are being hypnotised with all this crap on Tv and not seeing what's actually happening to us. If Joss Stone was F-ing for tracks I wonder why her career fizzled out like it did. Maybe she couldn't take it anymore. It breaks my heat when I think of precious little children like Quevenzhane (sp?) Wallis and Abigail Breslin. Those Fanning sisters look like they've seen it all. Not to mention the ones who are born into it. They don't stand a chance, Blue, Nori and with parents so thirsty I shudder to think what they will go through in life. I read somewhere that Jay was some soulless hungry type, down for whatever to get him wherever. He's probably done it all. Thats my thought about Jay as well! I think that a far as Joss Stone etc go its just the nature of the beast kinda like the "casting couch"...I don't even have words to describe how horrible I feel for those babies!!! Cory Feldman said the biggest problem in hollywood is pedophila. I'll post another video soon. That image really stood out to me, we're being hypnotized and the pons being used to hypnotize us are being hypnotized by TPTB. I was looking for another image of that I'd seen years ago on Vibe (and used in a collage I created) that has a video vixen on puppet string, a brotha holding her puppet strings and then a white man holding his puppet strings but everything works out as it should...
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Post by Guest on Mar 18, 2014 18:45:21 GMT
Thanks eljjai for the "link" on LA. Have to say I was dumb founded, embarrassingly so/slow. Thought I bring one of, so many good, comments home to DR2.
I grew up in a affluent part of NYC. Part of my family is involved in politics, I have met some of the most powerful men and women of our time. That has led to my cynicalness when it comes to these people. On the other side I have family that is involved in sports and entertainment. It was drilled in my head not to enter either arena. I didn't understand or listen to those warnings. So when I got older I attempted to be in the industry.
It wasn't until I myself tried to have a career in music as a songwriter did I learn certain things. I used to tell myself that I was lucky that I choose not to be a solo artist (which doesn't really mean anything, you are put on the same auction block). I worked a lot behind the scenes and many of my friends still do. I know for a fact that Juelz, Busta and Kevin Lil*)(#&es and many more have paid/pay and maintain/ed the lifestyles for many of my guy friends who are verrrrry gay. One of them was turned out by the industry he is now severely addicted to cocaine and turning tricks any and everywhere. I know of white "philanthropic's " that attended black industry events and turned it into their own personal buffets for ass. Andy H#ill%*(finger is the biggest perverted human being I have met. I was also a part of a non-for profit that claimed that it was a "artist development" kind of organization/help for at risk youth. That really introduced young kids to perverts in the industry. I was sicken that they got a doc out the deal as well as backing from R*)*)ushphilanthro*( _*pic and the founder used it as a opportunity to advance his non existent career.
Sad, just damn sad.
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Post by Elle McRealson on Mar 19, 2014 0:58:12 GMT
Thanks eljjai for the "link" on LA. Have to say I was dumb founded, embarrassingly so/slow. Thought I bring one of, so many good, comments home to DR2. I grew up in a affluent part of NYC. Part of my family is involved in politics, I have met some of the most powerful men and women of our time. That has led to my cynicalness when it comes to these people. On the other side I have family that is involved in sports and entertainment. It was drilled in my head not to enter either arena. I didn't understand or listen to those warnings. So when I got older I attempted to be in the industry. It wasn't until I myself tried to have a career in music as a songwriter did I learn certain things. I used to tell myself that I was lucky that I choose not to be a solo artist (which doesn't really mean anything, you are put on the same auction block). I worked a lot behind the scenes and many of my friends still do. I know for a fact that Juelz, Busta and Kevin Lil*)(#&es and many more have paid/pay and maintain/ed the lifestyles for many of my guy friends who are verrrrry gay. One of them was turned out by the industry he is now severely addicted to cocaine and turning tricks any and everywhere. I know of white "philanthropic's " that attended black industry events and turned it into their own personal buffets for ass. Andy H#ill%*(finger is the biggest perverted human being I have met. I was also a part of a non-for profit that claimed that it was a "artist development" kind of organization/help for at risk youth. That really introduced young kids to perverts in the industry. I was sicken that they got a doc out the deal as well as backing from R*)*)ushphilanthro*( _*pic and the founder used it as a opportunity to advance his non existent career. Sad, just damn sad. Thanks for sharing! Its really sad to hear about all the wolves wearing sheep's clothing...When I read the part about the non profit for at risk youths I immediately thought about Jerry Sandusky. As long as we notice the patterns and protect ourselves and our babies we'll be alright...
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Post by Guest Ohplease on Mar 21, 2014 21:15:22 GMT
Thanks eljjai for the "link" on LA. Have to say I was dumb founded, embarrassingly so/slow. Thought I bring one of, so many good, comments home to DR2. I grew up in a affluent part of NYC. Part of my family is involved in politics, I have met some of the most powerful men and women of our time. That has led to my cynicalness when it comes to these people. On the other side I have family that is involved in sports and entertainment. It was drilled in my head not to enter either arena. I didn't understand or listen to those warnings. So when I got older I attempted to be in the industry. It wasn't until I myself tried to have a career in music as a songwriter did I learn certain things. I used to tell myself that I was lucky that I choose not to be a solo artist (which doesn't really mean anything, you are put on the same auction block). I worked a lot behind the scenes and many of my friends still do. I know for a fact that Juelz, Busta and Kevin Lil*)(#&es and many more have paid/pay and maintain/ed the lifestyles for many of my guy friends who are verrrrry gay. One of them was turned out by the industry he is now severely addicted to cocaine and turning tricks any and everywhere. I know of white "philanthropic's " that attended black industry events and turned it into their own personal buffets for ass. Andy H#ill%*(finger is the biggest perverted human being I have met. I was also a part of a non-for profit that claimed that it was a "artist development" kind of organization/help for at risk youth. That really introduced young kids to perverts in the industry. I was sicken that they got a doc out the deal as well as backing from R*)*)ushphilanthro*( _*pic and the founder used it as a opportunity to advance his non existent career. Sad, just damn sad. @ eljjai, The Link is GONE!!!! Wiped out! Disappeared!
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Post by eljjai on Mar 22, 2014 20:09:00 GMT
^^^ The link is gone?? OMG, I guess Beyonce's team is watching our site.
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Post by giftofdiscernment on Mar 24, 2014 22:11:52 GMT
OMG! NOT the food network too, damn! I love Chopped, Beat Bobby Flay, and Cutthroat Kitchen... NOOOO!!!
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Post by R on Nov 21, 2016 18:33:05 GMT
Why ya'll gotta call her trannybey tho.. And i don't get why ppl keep acting like she's hit... you guys are acting like she don't have the same category of looks of the black women before her..
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Post by eljjai on Dec 1, 2016 16:30:22 GMT
@r Excellent quetion R, I call Beyonce Tranny Bey because her version of femininity is quite vulgar, and is quite similar to many trannies versions. It's like a mockery of actual femininity. He over-the-top hair make and wardrobe is exhausting. Think of other black female artists, or female artists of any color. None of them do the things Beyonce does. Her so called swag is very unfeminine. Very masculine in a dress. Think of drag shows, Beyonce would fit right in. her imge is very hard.
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