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Post by Elle McRealson on May 24, 2014 0:56:51 GMT
Warning hot tea...
From a lurker on RWS:
Sounds reasonable to me...Do you think Matthew will be managing Beyonce again? Can he save Worker Bee's career? Is Jay Z gonna walk away from his cash cow??
Thoughts???
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Post by missy on May 24, 2014 4:15:42 GMT
It does make sense, as dirty as he is, he has the know how in the biz and his daughter really needs him. But that damn Camel won't take it well. Since he's her manager he might try to hold her to some contract legally, or some dirty isht, or may try to get in her head, which is not too hard, he'll do whatever to stay afloat though, he might start talking, or we might get that book even. I read that they've merged their bank accounts as well, that's gonna be a major game changer right there, I can't stand a dumb woman who can't think for herself, us women are powerful and strong, we give life, ya cant beat that, a real woman is a gift, she's making real women like myself look bad, so I dont even feel sorry for her, how you gonna even let some dude turn you away from your dad behind a few coins, for all these years, damn near every song is about him, her life revolved around him, he was her god, that ain't how it go, I love my husband too, but damn.
Then that same piece of isht ended up stealing WAYY more from her right in front of her face. Stupid stupid girl. Up side though is that she may actually have something of substance to sing about in the future cuz life will turn one into an adult quick. Talkin bout some damn Bonnie and Clyde, On the run, too old for dat stupid isht. I hope Mathew make her a$$ get out the lime light for some years and get her some help, and some rest.
Sorry for the rant. I just went there... LOL
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Post by Guest XXX on May 24, 2014 16:17:45 GMT
If this is true then I am extremely curious to see how this is gonna work with Mathew being banned and blackballed from the Industry. He's no longer rubbing elbows with the people he used to. He's left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. And along with that terrible reputation he's also now widely known as a sex addict, drug addict, a thief and a con artist.
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Post by backup26 on May 24, 2014 21:53:30 GMT
If this is true then I am extremely curious to see how this is gonna work with Mathew being banned and blackballed from the Industry. He's no longer rubbing elbows with the people he used to. He's left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. And along with that terrible reputation he's also now widely known as a sex addict, drug addict, a thief and a con artist. Is Jay-Z any different from Matthew? At the end of the day who will have Beyonces best interest in mind? Matthew may have been a grimey manager but he kept her on point. Honestly, a lot of the problems she's having now probably wouldn't be an issue with Matthew around . Jay is going to suck her dry, take her name, Blue Ivy and everything else... aka Britney Spears her. She needs to let go of this fear of letting go and take all the help she can get to fix her so called life. Take a break or something....
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Post by Guest XXX on May 24, 2014 23:35:18 GMT
If this is true then I am extremely curious to see how this is gonna work with Mathew being banned and blackballed from the Industry. He's no longer rubbing elbows with the people he used to. He's left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. And along with that terrible reputation he's also now widely known as a sex addict, drug addict, a thief and a con artist. Is Jay-Z any different from Matthew? At the end of the day who will have Beyonces best interest in mind? Matthew may have been a grimey manager but he kept her on point. Honestly, a lot of the problems she's having now probably wouldn't be an issue with Matthew around . Jay is going to suck her dry, take her name, Blue Ivy and everything else... aka Britney Spears her. She needs to let go of this fear of letting go and take all the help she can get to fix her so called life. Take a break or something.... I know but my point still remains. Mathew has screwed over some major players who were his contacts and connections to making Beyonce the Megastar she is today and putting his family on the map. Where as, Jay hasn't done nearly as much, sacrificed as much or has taken the risks Mat has done on behalf of Beyonce. We're talking about a business where it's all in who you know that can make all the difference in your life. Hence, all these non-talented Mega stars. Mat has burned most if not all of those connections. A little research would reveal how he not only messed over the secular music big wigs but also has been blackballed in the Gospel arena, as well. Gospel Artist like Trin i tee 57 are legally bound to Mathew and can't do a damn thing because their manager Mat is blackballed. These ladies are stuck and can't move forward because of Mat. Now I ask you...what can he do when he's bitten the hands that feed him? Now it would be nice if people would take Beyonce's word and work from there, but when you re enter again, this particular time an exposed Mathew Knowles, speaking and working on behalf of Beyonce, it will IMO be interesting to see who...if anyone lifts the blackballed ban and re welcome him into their circle again. What I speak is reality because of where Mat stands today. Fantasy would be if we ignored the blackballing (which is a serious subject in Hollyweird, so-much-so that people suffer greatly because of it) and went straight to Ole Matty can save the day. I wish them all the luck in the world, I do. But if things don't fully work out, I know they brought this on themselves. It's never easy trusting someone who's already fucked over you.
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Post by quianaj11 on May 25, 2014 2:13:18 GMT
I don't feel sorry for her dumb ass not one bit, she had this coming for a long time hell we the public try to tell her but oh no she didn't listen to us smh.
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Post by pikqa babi on May 25, 2014 14:29:23 GMT
I don't feel sorry for her dumb ass not one bit, she had this coming for a long time hell we the public try to tell her but oh no she didn't listen to us smh. I do feel sorry for her as much as I dislike her. She is at an age where, like Mariah, she could be a handler, she could actually move mountains in the game without jay and his nasty business practices. She could actually make her own contracts with a very reputable lawyer. Cuz we know how these industry lawyers suck. But the point that im making is how can someone of her momentum, her caliber, be soo gullible, so dependent, and financially unaware at the age of 39-40. I have a sad feeling that when her life ends she will be deceased as a sad, gullible, mind-controlled product/puppet. She will never break away as the truth seeker nor freedom fighter.
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Post by eljjai on May 26, 2014 9:12:14 GMT
Matthew has burned so many bridges I don't think he'll ever be able to put Beyonce back on top but he could "direct her better". She's no longer getting 1st pick of all the hot songs. It's Rihanna and katy perry that are getting 1st choice. She's getting their leftovers. Matty can't help in that respect. He'd have to find unknown song writers and play them to get their good music. But everyone knows how grimy matty is now I doubt anyone would trust him with their stuff.
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Post by Guest123 on May 26, 2014 20:17:41 GMT
Not anyone that actually wants a career rather than being a sacrifice for "Beyonce" as many of her stans would gladly be
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Post by belladonna1983 on May 28, 2014 20:35:19 GMT
If this is true then I am extremely curious to see how this is gonna work with Mathew being banned and blackballed from the Industry. He's no longer rubbing elbows with the people he used to. He's left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. And along with that terrible reputation he's also now widely known as a sex addict, drug addict, a thief and a con artist. Is Jay-Z any different from Matthew? At the end of the day who will have Beyonces best interest in mind? Matthew may have been a grimey manager but he kept her on point. Honestly, a lot of the problems she's having now probably wouldn't be an issue with Matthew around . Jay is going to suck her dry, take her name, Blue Ivy and everything else... aka Britney Spears her. She needs to let go of this fear of letting go and take all the help she can get to fix her so called life. Take a break or something.... You know what's sad about the answer to this question? Any real woman, with brains and intelligence....could look out for HER OWN interests...she wouldnt NEED a man....she would be able to trust her own instincts, knowledge of the industry, and REAL friends and family's assistance to guide her, in order to manage her career. Poor Beyonce, forever being led and coddled by men, and look where it got here - a puppet!
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Post by therealfedup on May 31, 2014 0:23:04 GMT
Sadly, I think Beyonce is past the point Matthew can't return the way he use to be in the picture as a manager. She humiliated her father in a way with the public by his OWN doings of course. Unless and only unless--- Beyonce does the "abusive" victim role where she can public shame Jay z into this bad role of cheating abusive husband and then Daddy to the rescue with her family supporting her publicly. This is the only way I can see Matthew is back in her good graces so to speak. I am pretty sure behind close doors Matthew is giving her advice right now after that elevator gate scandal. Miss Andi K and I told you these things for years. Jay z is using Beyonce. As soon she is no longer useable---- he'll dump her or worst.
But I can't help but to sense something bad gonna happen to Beyonce. I don't know what but what goes up must come down at some point. Something eerrrie in my gut tells me her days are numbered. I hate thinking like this because Beyonce never use to be this dark and Jay z is tarnishing her brand for the worse and making her look robotic. Her eyes seems to be crying for help y'all. Something is not right with Beyonce. It's not about her passion for entertaining or music. She looks miserable. Like a prisoner in her own fame.
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Post by Heidi on May 31, 2014 2:58:37 GMT
Sadly, I think Beyonce is past the point Matthew can't return the way he use to be in the picture as a manager. She humiliated her father in a way with the public by his OWN doings of course. Unless and only unless--- Beyonce does the "abusive" victim role where she can public shame Jay z into this bad role of cheating abusive husband and then Daddy to the rescue with her family supporting her publicly. This is the only way I can see Matthew is back in her good graces so to speak. I am pretty sure behind close doors Matthew is giving her advice right now after that elevator gate scandal. Miss Andi K and I told you these things for years. Jay z is using Beyonce. As soon she is no longer useable---- he'll dump her or worst. But I can't help but to sense something bad gonna happen to Beyonce. I don't know what but what goes up must come down at some point. Something eerrrie in my gut tells me her days are numbered. I hate thinking like this because Beyonce never use to be this dark and Jay z is tarnishing her brand for the worse and making her look robotic. Her eyes seems to be crying for help y'all. Something is not right with Beyonce. It's not about her passion for entertaining or music. She looks miserable. Like a prisoner in her own fame. I agree there is something not right in the air about her life..The elevator incident speaks volumes.. That attack was weird and is a sign of things to come...
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Post by Guest XXX on May 31, 2014 3:00:26 GMT
Just thinking about all of this and I come to the conclusion that the best thing Beyonce could do is to sit down somewhere, raise her daughter, take a good bit of time off and get her house and business in order. Any and almost everything she does at this point will just be strategized, deceitful, desperate games. Which will do nothing but make her stock go down. Unfortunately for her the veil was lifted during "Elevator-gate" and she and her family were exposed as frauds. I still can't believe it took people this long to realize what a lot of us have known for quite some time now. But it has finally happened. -Trying to make Jay Z look like the devil, while she's sporting a halo is ridiculous when he's been the same Jay since she first met him but now that a lot more of the public know more about her personal business...It's now a problem. People need to remember Beyonce is apart of the same type of Boule her husband affiliates with. She wants to make it appear that she's nothing like him and I beg to differ! They both gladly and unapologetically benefited each time they f_cked over someone to get ahead, then had the nerve to brag about any and everything they gained. Putting out fake stories to make people believe they were literally King and Queen of the Universe with egos to match. How many years have they been together? And now that her brand has taken a hit, she's gonna do everything she can to save herself. Which for her will be the norm...Ya know...lie, steal, cheat, use Blue and others, etc,.. Except this go round all of those things will be on steroids times 10!
- Mathew is a lost cause at this point. He messed things up so bad that he's useless, at least until his ban is lifted. And who knows how long that's gonna be? Bottom line, if she doesn't take time off to get her shit together she's going to make matters worse for her because nobody's gonna buy the BS she's going to be putting out to save her ass. People are already noticing her desperation, which is not a good look when you go around calling yourself "Thee Queen" and telling folks to "Bow Down".
Beyonce, if you're reading t,his...Sit your ass down and recoup, then come back when you feel you can live in truth and not have to play games, instead of having to resort to smoke and mirrors, lies and theft to make it in that business. Maybe folks will began to sincerely respect you and not look at you as some sort of clown. You're raising a little girl, who just like other kids will do as they see their parents do and not do as their parents tell them to do. Trust me, you don't want to have a little Willow and Jaden on your hands.
P.S. I'm not crazy. LOL!!! I know she reads the blogs. A vain, insecure, yet egotistical woman like herself probably can't help but to read what folks say about her. Especially since "Elevator-gate" happened.
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Post by Heidi on May 31, 2014 4:38:34 GMT
Of course she reads the blogs most stars do...it is a good thing because they can see how people really feel about them.She needs to take a break before TPTB make her take one by introducing her to tragedy.You know how they make incidents and drug overdoses "happen." She will never take s break once she does her career is over.
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Post by shampagne on May 31, 2014 19:49:52 GMT
Sadly, I think Beyonce is past the point Matthew can't return the way he use to be in the picture as a manager. She humiliated her father in a way with the public by his OWN doings of course. Unless and only unless--- Beyonce does the "abusive" victim role where she can public shame Jay z into this bad role of cheating abusive husband and then Daddy to the rescue with her family supporting her publicly. This is the only way I can see Matthew is back in her good graces so to speak. I am pretty sure behind close doors Matthew is giving her advice right now after that elevator gate scandal. Miss Andi K and I told you these things for years. Jay z is using Beyonce. As soon she is no longer useable---- he'll dump her or worst. But I can't help but to sense something bad gonna happen to Beyonce. I don't know what but what goes up must come down at some point. Something eerrrie in my gut tells me her days are numbered. I hate thinking like this because Beyonce never use to be this dark and Jay z is tarnishing her brand for the worse and making her look robotic. Her eyes seems to be crying for help y'all. Something is not right with Beyonce. It's not about her passion for entertaining or music. She looks miserable. Like a prisoner in her own fame.I agree with your last paragraph, because I too sense that something bad is going to happen to her. You look at the pics she posts (or whoever does) and her eyes are dead. She is so lost and more people are questioning why she is looking so robotic especially on DailyMail. People say she should rest but it is not that easy. Beyonce is OWNED. In her latest pic she posted she is wearing leopard heels. A sign she is a sex slave available at anytime. Jay and her handlers are working her to death. She can't stop unless she is dead. Also she owes a lot of money due to lawsuits, album flops etc. It is not a good life. Anybody can tell she is looking tired and walking like her back is about to give out (bad posture). But she owes her label/masters back the money they put into her career by buying advertising, paying bloggers to write good things, buying her followers on social media, paying hackers to inflate her You Tube video counts, paying trolls to go on blogs and defend her and using connections to get her movie deals/endorsements. They are not making a good return on their investment AND also she has to continue servicing the elite. I know homegirl is about to fall hard very soon.
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Post by Elle McRealson on Jun 1, 2014 21:32:29 GMT
I agree GuestXXX Beyonce should sit down and get her house in order that would be the best thing for her to do personally/spritiually, but I also agree with therealfedup, shampagne and many others that Beyonce is owned by TPTB. She's a slave that can't dictate her own fate. Which is why she will be "killing her herself" again on stage for this next tour and is constantly on tour period. The charts aren't really checking for her, she hasn't had a major performance since the grammy fiasco BUT her stans will buy concert tickets - Pepsi etc needs their coins, so she stays on tour. She just did 6 legs of the Mrs Camel World tour, 132 shows all over the world from 4/15/13 until 3/27/14, you would think she would need time to rest and recuperate...figure out how to get a #1 hit out of this album...comb her daughters hair....but no, a month later Sean Camel announced this new tour (which I had heard about a few months before that) so Worker Bee's schedule had already been set.
At this point I don't think Matthew can save her career. She needs a major power broker to change this tide, someone like Bennie Medina, but I don't see Jennifer Lopez parting ways with him again so that....won't happen. It looks like with all the reports/rumors of Cam cheating and abusing her, her camp/controllers may be positioning themselves to separate her brand from his after this tour. IMO, both of their careers, are sinking ships- it will be interesting to see how they will climb over one another and which one will come out on top.
By the way "Part ll (On the Run)" is #96 on the billboard charts after 15 weeks (last week it was #85, peek position #77)
check Cam's billboard chart history for true receipts
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Post by shampagne on Jun 2, 2014 1:10:15 GMT
I agree GuestXXX Beyonce should sit down and get her house in order that would be the best thing for her to do personally/spritiually, but I also agree with therealfedup, shampagne and many others that Beyonce is owned by TPTB. She's a slave that can't dictate her own fate. Which is why she will be "killing her herself" again on stage for this next tour and is constantly on tour period. The charts aren't really checking for her, she hasn't had a major performance since the grammy fiasco BUT her stans will buy concert tickets - Pepsi etc needs their coins, so she stays on tour. She just did 6 legs of the Mrs Camel World tour, 132 shows all over the world from 4/15/13 until 3/27/14, you would think she would need time to rest and recuperate...figure out how to get a #1 hit out of this album...comb her daughters hair....but no, a month later Sean Camel announced this new tour (which I had heard about a few months before that) so Worker Bee's schedule had already been set.
At this point I don't think Matthew can save her career. She needs a major power broker to change this tide, someone like Bennie Medina, but I don't see Jennifer Lopez parting ways with him again so that....won't happen. It looks like with all the reports/rumors of Cam cheating and abusing her, her camp/controllers may be positioning themselves to separate her brand from his after this tour. IMO, both of their careers, are sinking ships- it will be interesting to see how they will climb over one another and which one will come out on top.
By the way "Part ll (On the Run)" is #96 on the billboard charts after 15 weeks (last week it was #85, peek position #77)
check Cam's billboard chart history for true receipts
I agree 100%. Beyonce's last #1 hit was 'Single Ladies' on US Billboard charts and 'Drunk in Love" on US R&B charts. Which I think is a lie because the highest 'Drunk in Love" went was #2. Anyways I think she has only has 5 number #1 hits in her career. Yet she is a queen? As a solo act she has had 5 albums and sold 32 million albums and Adele has 2 albums and sold 35 albums and Beyonce is considered the greatest of our generation? LOL Michael Jackson has 10 albums and sold 200 million albums and she is supposed to be on Michael's level. (These are real numbers not inflated by the media claiming she sold 150 million records worldwide. I never knew the hate for Beyonce until I started reading blogs a few ago. She is all hype! With DC she sold less. Jay Z has 15 albums and sold 33.1 million album worldwide. Matthew cannot save her career people are seeing the mirrors as the smoke is diminishing. Even Benny Medina can't save her. Jennifer Lopez has a personality. She is not robotic. She can do interviews. Beyonce is illiterate and boring. She hasn't even been on a talk show like Ellen or Jimmy Kimmel in years. I heard that now she has to read off a script or have someone tell what to say. Like the ear piece she wore when she did the superbowl interview. In the industry Beyonce is a laughingstock. A lot celebs despise her and camel. I heard she became a huge laughingstock esp with the 'fake' pregnancy. A lot of other stars did it in the past with no problem but even she couldn't even handle that! Her career is basically done and not even Matthew or whoever can save it. HER TIME IS UP!
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Post by Elle McRealson on Jun 3, 2014 22:56:48 GMT
I agree GuestXXX Beyonce should sit down and get her house in order that would be the best thing for her to do personally/spritiually, but I also agree with therealfedup, shampagne and many others that Beyonce is owned by TPTB. She's a slave that can't dictate her own fate. Which is why she will be "killing her herself" again on stage for this next tour and is constantly on tour period. The charts aren't really checking for her, she hasn't had a major performance since the grammy fiasco BUT her stans will buy concert tickets - Pepsi etc needs their coins, so she stays on tour. She just did 6 legs of the Mrs Camel World tour, 132 shows all over the world from 4/15/13 until 3/27/14, you would think she would need time to rest and recuperate...figure out how to get a #1 hit out of this album...comb her daughters hair....but no, a month later Sean Camel announced this new tour (which I had heard about a few months before that) so Worker Bee's schedule had already been set.
At this point I don't think Matthew can save her career. She needs a major power broker to change this tide, someone like Bennie Medina, but I don't see Jennifer Lopez parting ways with him again so that....won't happen. It looks like with all the reports/rumors of Cam cheating and abusing her, her camp/controllers may be positioning themselves to separate her brand from his after this tour. IMO, both of their careers, are sinking ships- it will be interesting to see how they will climb over one another and which one will come out on top.
By the way "Part ll (On the Run)" is #96 on the billboard charts after 15 weeks (last week it was #85, peek position #77)
check Cam's billboard chart history for true receipts
I agree 100%. Beyonce's last #1 hit was 'Single Ladies' on US Billboard charts and 'Drunk in Love" on US R&B charts. Which I think is a lie because the highest 'Drunk in Love" went was #2. Anyways I think she has only has 5 number #1 hits in her career. Yet she is a queen? As a solo act she has had 5 albums and sold 32 million albums and Adele has 2 albums and sold 35 albums and Beyonce is considered the greatest of our generation? LOL Michael Jackson has 10 albums and sold 200 million albums and she is supposed to be on Michael's level. (These are real numbers not inflated by the media claiming she sold 150 million records worldwide. I never knew the hate for Beyonce until I started reading blogs a few ago. She is all hype! With DC she sold less. Jay Z has 15 albums and sold 33.1 million album worldwide. Matthew cannot save her career people are seeing the mirrors as the smoke is diminishing. Even Benny Medina can't save her. Jennifer Lopez has a personality. She is not robotic. She can do interviews. Beyonce is illiterate and boring. She hasn't even been on a talk show like Ellen or Jimmy Kimmel in years. I heard that now she has to read off a script or have someone tell what to say. Like the ear piece she wore when she did the superbowl interview. In the industry Beyonce is a laughingstock. A lot celebs despise her and camel. I heard she became a huge laughingstock esp with the 'fake' pregnancy. A lot of other stars did it in the past with no problem but even she couldn't even handle that! Her career is basically done and not even Matthew or whoever can save it. HER TIME IS UP! Yep no major interviews, the one she did with Oprah was extremely scripted...now we know why that breakfast club interview never happened.
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