What's Your Opinion...Let's Talk!

You said:

"Anyway, what's your take on this subject and do you agree with the majority that J's going to fail and B's star is going to continue to rise?"


Assuming that there is even a divorce on the horizon, here's my take on what you posted and my reasons. BTW, your third paragraph was so on point.


I think they both needed each other at first, Jay z's so called street cred was questionable in the beginning, he was more like an errand boy....at first, not saying he never did any dirt, he did others dirt for them, he was a follower, but he did gain street sense from it all, his rap career wouldn't have went far though, cuz that was a whole new jungle. She was green, secretly bumping UGK in her room as a teen, the skating ring and the movies on a Saturday night was her version of turnt up, her parents were strict, so she had to sneak and do her dirt, sheltering kids is not good, hence those abortion rumors, anyway, she knew nothing about the life, no hustle, no street smarts, no game. Matty pushed her group, she went solo, all this new attention went to her head, Jay Z's swagger was something she wasnt used to, so she went for it, but he saw an opportunity for a come up. His career could go far now, he would be the ultimate pimp now, what he's always rapped about, especially after Rihanna hit the scene. Beyonce loves money, so of course she was down for whatever, but she didn't quite know where his head was, young dumb, greedy and stupid. What's going on now is just inevitable, she's older, she's FINALLY realized some sh**. I think she's ready to move on, probably asks herself daily, "what the hell was i thinkin?" Now, I believe he wants to make it work, he realizes he may loose her and that she's not that naive girl anymore under HIS spell, I dont think the realizations are from him loving her, he's selfish, couldn't stand to see her make it without him. I believe that her career will go on, but rap is a hard hussle, very unforgiving, he can't move on stage anymore, and you can only rap so much about cars, clothes, and ho's. and We've all witnessed over the years that he's not a smart buisiness man, so that's not the best route for him.

I guess I'm leaning towards that Ike and Tina scenario for them, after all there are soo many parallels here. She will go on and have a career, he'll never be flat broke, but he'll survive, just like Ike did with his lil guitar, it's just that Jay-Z will have his lil mic. And maybe...just maybe like Tina, Beyonce will grow in her music, and learn to stop singing them damn nursery rhymes, and become a woman, a real woman.

Lol thanks.

You have some good points as well.
I didn't know that he put Rihanna's tour together, I know she's his artist, but I thought since she was with Em, that it was on that end.

But yeah my lil scenario/2 cents...lol came from the things about them that's been posted over time, what i hear and see of them,and the fact that they're both still on stage after so long in the game, I just feel desperation from one of them, maybe both,and I guess I just leaned more toward him...lol
Other, I guess "moguls" that's been on, like Diddy, Russell Simmons, Dre, ya know with businesses and artists out aren't always so in-your-face as old Camel, still bragging about material things, and Picasso's 'n sh**, which to me says if you have to brag about "things" they're either nonexistent or fake.
I read somewhere the other day that together they barely have $200 milli combined, ya know with all the debt they have accumulated, and it's also been rumored that he's been spending her money, AND the fact that they've supposedly combined assets, which if true, was another dumb move. This is how I came to my lil conclusion. I know either of the two won't be as broke as me, lol, but he's not and won't ever be a billionaire either, that's not how the game goes TPTB won't stand for that, so Yodel needs to stop lying and faking, what did she say in her Lil remix? "What you expect when it's a billion dollars on an elevator?"......yeah, whatever. lol

And I'm like you on the whole Rita Ora thing...never heard one song lol.

But who knows, we'll see, and hey, if I'm wrong, then I stand corrected. :-)

Hi Guest123, I think you're right. Split or not these companies will use their brands until they aren't profitable anymore and the last red cent is spent. It only makes sense because they've already invested millions of dollars towards their brands to make them who they are today. So if they brought in someone else they would have to spend even more money to bring them to the point of where B & J are. Right now the companies don't have to invest as much into them because now these artist actually sell themselves. The smoke and mirrors have already set the tone, leaving mostly profitable gains, rather than lost for them. -I could've sworn Rihanna said that J has to sign off on all of her projects, meaning he helps to steer her career, has the final say so and also gets his share of the profits...or something like that. IDK. But until you mentioned it, I didn't place Rihanna as part of B & J's brand/empire. Which is more reasons for the companies to continue to use them for profit.

I do agree with the majority but not because I think Beyonce is such agreat star or is pretty or whatever superficial reason the stans give. The truth as I see it is that Beyonce made Jay Z more mainstream.  He may have given her street cred but being mainstream brings more opportunity than being street.  Also Jay Z has never made Beyonce money nor has he made Beyonce deals. Beyonce advertising for l'oreal probably made her more money than Jay Z has made in his life. In comparison the deals jay Z makes earn him peanuts. He hypes it up but in truth he is lending his name and only gets a fraction of the profits. Even that samsung deal didn't get him as much as he claims publically. If it weren't for Beyonce's numerous lawsuits she would be in much better standing because o her endorsement deals.

Jay Z is pretty much broke from what I believe and is living off Beyonce, which is why he needed to get rid of matty. He couldn't care less about the creative direction of Beyonce's career, he just wanted her money.  

And not to sound superficial but looks do matter when it come to earning power in hollywood. Beyonce actually has a face she can lend to campaigns. She will always own her own face, but one does not always own their brand/name. So with things like l'oreal, all that money is hers as compared to money from record sales. Jay Z doesn't have a face he can put on anything. A face is worth more than a name. Jay can only lend his name and that's not nearly powerful enough.

I think Jay will crumble without Beyonce but Beyonce will crumble too, but not because jay is no longer at her side. Beyonce's downfall will be because she let Jay near her business interests to begin with. It's affected her brand and earning power greatly. 

Anyway, just my two cents.